View Full Version : If this were only a Suzuki!

April 21st, 2011, 09:10 PM
Here is a link to the Mercedes Benz A concept being shown in NY and Shanghai right now!

Holy mother, is this beautiful! Sign me up!


enjoy, Marv

April 21st, 2011, 10:26 PM

Good grief! What an abomination! What lack of originality!

It looks like a cross between the Mazda Kazamai Concept from 2008:


and the BMW X coupé Concept from 2001:


BMW even "borrowed" BMW's signature Hofmeister kink. :rolleyes:

What I find most disappointing is that as soon as BMW finally put Chris Bangle's horrific "flame surfacing" styling gimmick behind them, Mercedes-Benz decides to adopt it? Sure, they changed it up a little bit with some swirly dots in the grille and wheels, but even normally-reserved Mercedes once mocked Bangle's "flame surfacing" styling. :confused:

Oh well, at least this A-Class Concept makes the Nissan Juke look positively classy. :hi:


April 22nd, 2011, 01:58 AM
China will buy it.
And mock it in zilliard copies, powered by lawnmower engines :D

April 22nd, 2011, 04:39 AM
German design is an oxymoron, German engineering is an pleonasm. :)

April 22nd, 2011, 05:13 AM
pleonasmThanks for the new word, at least to me. :)

I’ve used the automobile as a way to illustrate my belief that Germans are engineers and Italians are artists (I.e. ‘Benzs, & Beemers vs. Ferraris, & Maseratis). If you give me the argument that there is such a thing as a national character and Italian design, what word would you use to describe Italian engineering? (Yes, I know they also build Volkswagens & Fiats.)

April 22nd, 2011, 08:27 AM
Almost as ugly as a PONTIAC AZTEC !!!!!:notimpressed::rolf:

April 22nd, 2011, 10:12 AM
No, I would definitely not like Suzuki to be like this:


A class concept could not start at it's debut at the car show in Shanghai, so it had to be pushed on stage by the Mercedes directors. :hi:

April 22nd, 2011, 10:18 AM
If you give me the argument that there is such a thing as a national character and Italian design, what word would you use to describe Italian engineering?

Unreliable? :)

April 22nd, 2011, 12:09 PM
Unreliable? :)

But beautiful. :D

April 22nd, 2011, 03:30 PM
I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I do agree that it does contain some of both the Mazda Kazami and the BMW X coupe, but it's still beautiful in 'my' eye.

Maybe Suzuki could take some styling cues here for a Kizashi wagon!


April 22nd, 2011, 05:13 PM
As Rubicon4wheeler points out this Mercedes A concept styling appears borrowed from BMW's (Bangle's) Z4 and predecessors along with Mazda's 2008 Kazamai concept. It also has shades of the Mazda Shinari concept in terms of surfacing.

I'd rather see Suzuki follow its own styling cues as shown in its spunky A-Star (pictures #1 through #3 below). Of course, I'd like to see this kind of styling applied to an SX4-sized vehicle, maybe even with another few inches of wheelbase and overall length. I think this kind of no-nonsense styling reflects Suzuki's image much more accurately -- no fuss, no muss; just practical, somewhat "cheeky," and very contemporary. I also think they should abandon the rather pedestrian-looking Concept S (picture #4 below), which appears to be a suped-up version of the production Swift. I can't help but think that this car looks like a Nissan with its waterfall headlights, slab sides, and swept up (the right way) greenhouse.

[Continued - See Part 2 in next post]

#1: Suzuki A-Star Side View

#2: Suzuki A Star Concept Front 3/4 View

#3: Suzuki A-Star Rear View

#4: Suzuki Concept S

April 22nd, 2011, 05:14 PM
Now if only Suzuki were to build a mid-engined sports car from the SX4 parts bin! Oh man, they could bring a Toyota MR2-type car to the US at a reasonable price (under $25K) and clean up. They may be thinking about it with their GSX-R/4 concept (#5), but they've got to find their own styling pallet. There's plenty of styling precedence for such a car ranging from the 1985 Nissan MID4-I and 1987 MID4-II prototypes (#6 and #7), the latter a lot like the 1990 Toyota MR2, and the 1987 Pontiac Fiero GT (#8) to VW's contemporary interpretation of the Porsche 914 seen in the BlueSport Roadster concept (pic #9).

Heck Suzuki might simply derive their own styling from the original and very pragmatic looking 1969 Porsche 914 (#10) with nice fender flares and sculpted front and rear fascias. There are other notable modest-priced, mid-engine sports cars that might lend styling cues to such a car, including the 1973 Matra Bagheera (#11), 1976 Lancia Monte Carlo (aka Scorpion in the US) (#12), 1980 Matra Murena (#13), 1990 Toyota MR2 (#14), 1996 Lotus Elise (#15), 1996 Renault Sport Spider (#16), 2000 Vauxhall VX220 (aka Opel Speedster) (#17). Shades of the 1990 Acura NSX (#18) or borrowing anything from the magnificent 1971 Maserati Bora (#19) (both quite expensive of course) would be absolute gravy!

Frankly, after all this talk about mid-engine styling on which Suzuki might pattern such a car, I'd suggest they just base their styling on the VW BlueSport Roadster and make a killing in the US market, Europe, and Asia by underpricing both the BlueSport and the Scirocco.

Ah, if only I could be directing the development of new hatchbacks and sports cars for Suzuki, or any creative, automotive company for that matter. Think about it. Maybe it will happen or maybe we just have to let Suzuki know what a nice halo car it would make. Enjoy the dream!

#5: Suzuki GSX-R/4

#6: 1985 Nissan MID4-I

#7: 1987 Nissan MID4-II

#8: 1987-1988 Pontiac Fiero (1988 Shown)

#9: VW BlueSport Roadster

#10: 1969 Porsche 914

#11: 1973 Matra Bagheera (Matra-Simca)

#12: 1976 Lancia Monte Carlo (aka Scorpion in the US)

#13: 1980 Matra Murena (Talbot-Matra)

#14: 1990 Toyota MR2 (1993 shown with T-roof)

#15: 1996 Lotus Elise

#16: 1996 Renault Sport Spider

#17: 2000 Vauxhall VX220 (aka Opel Speedster)

#18: 1991 Acura NSX (1998 shown)

#19: 1971 Maserati Bora

April 22nd, 2011, 06:49 PM
I'm glad to be the 1st to say that Benz looks SWEET!:cool: I like the styling of it. I like the Mazda concept as well.
Most of the cars above I could do without:hi:

And I'd rather eat my puke rather than own a Juke.......hey that rhymes :hi: sweet!

April 22nd, 2011, 06:55 PM
I'm glad to be the 1st to say that Benz looks SWEET!:cool: I like the styling of it.

Spoken like a sedan owner. :wink::hi:

April 29th, 2011, 06:17 AM
Unreliable? :)

Italian cars prefers to be driven by Italians. Their reliability depends on that. So you gotta have to know the right spell when the car starts acting like a donkey: "Pezo di merda" or "Cazzo di merda" and a few kicks usually will be enough :hi: